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 Post subject: IF and Linux
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 3:46 am 
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Hi folks,

I've now moved over to Linux Mint as my OS of choice. Does anyone else here use Linux, and would anyone know of any software for both the reading and writing of interactive fiction? I could get some stuff for windows and just use Linux's windows simulator but it would be nice if there was some native stuff. I've had a fish about and found 'gargoyle' but not used it yet, I think it's just for playing stuff and I want to have a go at creating sometime.

I have frotz on my phone naturally so I'll never be truly stuck :) but I ought to make use of my big screen too, plus write stuff.

Any info most welcome
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 Post subject: Re: IF and Linux
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 4:00 am 
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This is a good place to get info:

http://www.ifwiki.org

The "Authoring Systems" and "Interpreters" sections should give you an idea of what's available.


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 Post subject: Re: IF and Linux
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 5:01 am 
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ADRIFT 5 Runner now has a Linux version that runs under Mono. See http://forum.adrift.co/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7202 for details. This is still at a very early stage however. I guess that doesn't help you if you want to write games tho...

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 Post subject: Re: IF and Linux
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 5:34 am 
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My personal experience, as a Linux user, is:

Gargoyle to play the games. It reads almost everything, but it has some issues with Hugo files, I think.

I'm using gnome-inform7 to write my story, and it works very well. I haven't used other languages*, so my personal experience report ends here :)

* Question from a non native: is it 'I haven't use' or 'I haven't used'?

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 Post subject: Re: IF and Linux
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 6:41 am 
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lribeiro wrote:
* Question from a non native: is it 'I haven't use' or 'I haven't used'?


"I haven't used" is correct.


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 Post subject: Re: IF and Linux
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 7:08 am 
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matt w wrote:
"I haven't used" is correct.


Thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: IF and Linux
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 9:50 am 
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I second the recommendation of Gargoyle. It's beautiful and plays all the major game formats (although, as Iribeiro noted, it has issues with a few formats - Hugo and Adrift, mainly).

I also use QTADS for TADS 2 and 3 games. Gargoyle can run TADS games, but it doesn't support multimedia or text formatting, whereas QTADS does. QTADS is also a very nice interpreter - not as stylish as Gargoyle, but clean, functional and easy to customise.

For authoring, Inform 7 runs natively on Linux. TADS 2 and 3 also do if you're willing to use the command line, but if you want to use the TADS Workbench, you'll need Wine. (It does run quite well under Wine, although there are a few nagging problems.)

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 Post subject: Re: IF and Linux
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 10:25 am 
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Gargoyle is unable to properly play V6 Z-machine games (which basically means Journey, Shogun, Zork 0, and Arthur), and probably never will be able to. Other than for V6, though, Gargoyle is my interpreter (or interpreter collection) of choice.

Zoom can play V6 and runs natively on Linux. For V6 you might also consider Windows Frotz running under Wine. In my experience Windows Frotz does V6 a bit better than Zoom, and it runs flawlessly with Wine.


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Emerald wrote:
For authoring, Inform 7 runs natively on Linux.


Whoah, how? When I tried installing it, it told me something along the lines of "I need these libraries, but I'm not going to install them, and no, I won't tell you why." And when I tried to automatically resolve the issue, it just deleted gnome-inform7.


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drayakir wrote:
Emerald wrote:
For authoring, Inform 7 runs natively on Linux.


Whoah, how? When I tried installing it, it told me something along the lines of "I need these libraries, but I'm not going to install them, and no, I won't tell you why." And when I tried to automatically resolve the issue, it just deleted gnome-inform7.

Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu, right? Which version of Ubuntu? The .deb on the Inform 7 website is compiled for Ubuntu 11.04 and doesn't work on earlier versions, so you might need to use this .deb instead. It's the same version of Inform 7, just compiled for Ubuntu 10.10 instead of 11.04.

If neither .deb is working for you, it might be a problem specific to Linux Mint. Let us know which libraries are causing the issue and we'll see if we can help you get it working.

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