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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:16 am 
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Commercial era games were the Greeks; early hobbyists were the Romans (copying the Greeks). Now, we're in the Renaissance.


I like it.

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By the way, send me an email if you want to have the ods (LibreOffice) spreadsheets for both comps. That would allow you to do more detailed comparisons.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:36 am 
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For those who'd like to know, the games that dropped out of the list got the following number of votes in the 2015 edition.

3 votes

So Far, Andrew Plotkin (1996)
LASH -- Local Asynchronous Satellite Hookup, Paul O'Brian (2000)
Blue Chairs, Chris Klimas (2004)
Suveh Nux, David Fisher (2007)

2 votes

Sunset over Savannah, Ivan Cockrum (1997)
The Gostak, Carl Muckenhoupt (2001)
Vespers, Jason Devlin (2005)
Everybody Dies, Jim Munroe (2008)
The Warbler's Nest, Jason McIntosh (2010)

1 vote

Planetfall, Steve Meretzky (1983)
The Guild of Thieves, Rob Steggles (1987)
Eric the Unready, Bob Bates (1993)
Delightful Wallpaper, Andrew Plotkin (2006)
Hoist Sail for the Heliopause and Home, Andrew Plotkin (2010)
Aotearoa, Matt Wigdahl (2010)

no votes

Adventure, William Crowther and Donald Woods (1976)
Arthur: the Quest for Excalibur, Bob Bates (1989)
1893: A World's Fair Mystery, Peter Nepstad (2002)


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busterwrites wrote:
Commercial era games were the Greeks; early hobbyists were the Romans (copying the Greeks). Now, we're in the Renaissance.


Is Porpentine our Bosch? Is "Down, the serpent and the sun" a Francis Bacon? :)

We really do have all sorts, come to think of it. I think that's marvellous.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:18 am 
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Peter Piers wrote:
Is Porpentine our Bosch? Is "Down, the serpent and the sun" a Francis Bacon? :)

The painter Francis Bacon was not from the Renaissance. ;-)


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I was going for tone rather than historic accuracy.

That's my excuse, anyway.


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It took me a while to realise that they were two different guys...


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After some tinkering around with numbers relative to last time... my conclusion is that the sample size is way too small to draw many conclusions. Most games either more-or-less maintained their position, within a few places, or dropped a way to accommodate new games.

However! The one game which rose substantially in the rankings since last time is Mentula Macanus. I don't think that Mentula's reputation has skyrocketed particularly since the last poll - everything that was said about it was said within a few months of it coming out, really. But it came out in the same year as the poll, and it's not exactly a single-sitting kind of game, so perhaps not everybody had had a chance to get around to it yet.


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maga wrote:
However! The one game which rose substantially in the rankings since last time is Mentula Macanus. I don't think that Mentula's reputation has skyrocketed particularly since the last poll - everything that was said about it was said within a few months of it coming out, really. But it came out in the same year as the poll, and it's not exactly a single-sitting kind of game, so perhaps not everybody had had a chance to get around to it yet.

Of course, in the meantime Mentula Macanus also proved its canonicity by inspiring modern masterworks like The Cavity of Time and Nemesis Macana, games which missed getting into the top 50 by a mere four votes!


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maga wrote:
However! The one game which rose substantially in the rankings since last time is Mentula Macanus. I don't think that Mentula's reputation has skyrocketed particularly since the last poll - everything that was said about it was said within a few months of it coming out, really. But it came out in the same year as the poll, and it's not exactly a single-sitting kind of game, so perhaps not everybody had had a chance to get around to it yet.


I suspect there will be a similar effect next time for Hadean Lands--and Blood and Laurels, if and when it appears on other platforms.


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