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Sec. I didn't threaten anyone. I was just trying to say that such arrogance when used on the street would end you up beaten. That was not a threaten. I'm not gonna beat anyone. It's just that such insults I'm pretty sure one wouldn't use face to face.
Apart from the fact they are at all inappropriate, given the target.

No, seriously, "I'm just saying something could happen to you" is a threat. Don't do it.

Agree.

-Kevin

True. Plus irrelevant.

"I'm just saying that if you did that in real life, something probably would happen to you" is not a threat. Not even close. Not even if you squint your eyes and blur them on purpose.

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What he was saying is that "Pudlo's" brand of interaction is tolerated only on the internet. He was saying that if "Pudlo" spoke to someone in person, on the street or in conversation, the way "he" speaks to or about people here, it would likely incite "his" target or subject to violence. He never threatened "Pudlo". He never said he was going to harm him, wanted to harm him or would harm him if given the opportunity. I agree with him. "Pudlo's" behavior is very Kanye West. I believe "he" knows what "he" can get away with, when and with whom. "He" knows "he" can get away with it on the internet, so "he" does. James merely pointed out that he likely wouldn't get away with it face-to-face.

Jamespking is Italian. I believe I saw somewhere that English isn't his native language. I could be wrong. But that could be lending to the confusion.

Pudlo is extremely good at detecting sensitive subjects to which people might react emotionally. On Usenet he crafted subtle yet maximally inflammatory posts, carefully avoiding making them obvious trolls, and posted them using a fake name. It was also common for two or three people to mysteriously appear from nowhere and agree with Pudlo. At some point he took a step up from fictional sockpuppets and started posing as other well-known people from the community. (Remember that on Usenet there's no verification of any kind. You can post using any name and email address you like.) That was also the point where it wasn't just annoying (or amusing, depending how you took it), harmless trolling anymore. I'm not a huge fan of displaying the post count next to every post, but it does prevent anything like that from happening on the forums.

Personally I can live with Pudlo being active on the forums. If you put him on the foe list you don't see his posts. If he makes a post, I click it open and go back again just so that it's removed from the unread posts list. It becomes annoying only when people take the bait. The thread becomes active and keeps coming up in the unread posts list. Sometimes a genuinely interesting and constructive discussion comes out, and that's great, but mostly it's just a bunch of people battling against windmills. It's useless to try to argue with Pudlo, because his posts don't reflect his opinions -- the posts are completely artificial, their only purpose is to annoy people. There's no reason to tell him that his review is unfair or that he is nitpicking about inconsequential things. He already knows it because he does it on purpose.

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Debatable, but anyway that's why I called it a "threatlike thing." Even if it's not a threat, using the imagery of violence against another poster is inappropriate. Kind of like that Introcomp reviewer who told Poster to kill himself; that's obviously not a threat, but it's not an appropriate thing to say.

I'm not advocating being nice here. It's perfectly appropriate to sling insults Pudlo's way; that's sauce for the gander.* It's the violent imagery that I don't like.

*Explanation for non-native speakers.

Indeed. I was just hoping I wouldn't sound like micheal corleone. You know: "I fink somefink bad could happen too yoo. I'm makin yoo an offer one can't refoose."

Sounds more like Sonny or maybe Vito -- I remember Michael as being smoother.

My comment was a response to katz (see above), and was specific to katz' comment.

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