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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:05 am 
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Hey all!

Since there's a tonne of talented writers hanging round this forum, it'd be dumb for me not to mention this here...

Over at inkle we've just announced we're making an anthology iOS app of stories written using our multiple-choice game writing tool, inklewriter. It's open to anyone, we have a panel of judges including a publisher, a literary agent, and a game designer.

We're looking for 10 stories to be published worldwide as an inklebook late this year, with the top 3 winning a little money too. Closing date's 15th September. More details at the competition page.

Any questions, just fire away!

cheers!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:06 am 
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Will the anthology be a free download?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:59 am 
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zarf wrote:
Will the anthology be a free download?


To be honest, at this stage, we're not sure. Depends how much time the art takes to do, which depends on how popular we think the thing is going to be. I suspect we'll lose money either way, just a question of how much; but we'd certainly rather the thing was widely read than turned a profit. (And, of course, nice art will help with that.)

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:22 am 
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My concern: in the book world, it's bad form to run a for-profit anthology based on competition submissions. If you posted somewhere saying "send us your short story, we'll publish it, you don't get any royalties! Most of you don't even get an advance!" you would get a flood of authors saying "*ripoff*" and little besides.

In this case, you stand a good shot of not *making* any profit, for the app world is harsh -- I don't know how Frankenstein is doing -- but I'd say it is a bad precedent to set.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:29 am 
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zarf wrote:
My concern: in the book world, it's bad form to run a for-profit anthology based on competition submissions.


Is that true across the board? I'm thinking of competitions like Writers of the Future; of course the prizes for that are much bigger, but it's also a much bigger competition.

Though to be honest I don't know if the WoF anthologies are profit-making ventures or just fund the competition.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:29 pm 
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As I understand it, the Writers of the Future anthologies are profit-making, but they don't get to use the competition winners for free. The authors get paid for being included, and this is separate from any competition prize money.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:50 pm 
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zarf wrote:
My concern: in the book world, it's bad form to run a for-profit anthology based on competition submissions. If you posted somewhere saying "send us your short story, we'll publish it, you don't get any royalties! Most of you don't even get an advance!" you would get a flood of authors saying "*ripoff*" and little besides.


Um, I kinda think you're talking through your hat, actually - most writing competitions charge an entrance fee and profit *directly* from their hopeful contributors, regardless of whether the resulting anthology sells or not. That's a negative royalty plus no exposure. And semi-prozines, like the ones I've had fiction published in, pay a small, token amount to classify as such, but it's not a royalty. And that's because, in the book world, profits on anthologies as rare as profits on apps.

And honestly, I don't think it is a rip-off: we've worked hard to gather a panel of publishers, agents, etc. Submissions will go in front of them. The winners will be published, worldwide, to as much marketing acclaim as we can muster, in a top-quality app. That kind of exposure can be worth a colossal amount. I'd love to have that on my own writing CV.

I'd accept that full-time professional authors might not be interested. I hope some are, but I'm okay with it if they're not. But I'd be stunned if new writers aren't. We're running this partly because, if it had existed ten years ago when I was starting out, I would have fallen over myself to enter. I wanted opportunities at this kind of level and couldn't find them. Now I get to make them.

All of which said, free or not, Future Voices isn't for-profit.

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zarf wrote:
My concern: in the book world, it's bad form to run a for-profit anthology based on competition submissions. If you posted somewhere saying "send us your short story, we'll publish it, you don't get any royalties! Most of you don't even get an advance!" you would get a flood of authors saying "*ripoff*" and little besides.


The same is true in RPG and hobby-game publishing, FWIW.

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Um, I kinda think you're talking through your hat, actually


Perhaps. I thought someone should raise the question, anyhow.

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most writing competitions charge an entrance fee and profit *directly* from their hopeful contributors


I see a difference between an entrance fee and an intent to sell the works to the public.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:11 pm 
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zarf wrote:
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Um, I kinda think you're talking through your hat, actually


Perhaps. I thought someone should raise the question, anyhow.

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most writing competitions charge an entrance fee and profit *directly* from their hopeful contributors


I see a difference between an entrance fee and an intent to sell the works to the public.


Well, one's a better way to turn a profit than the other... anyway, it's a fair point for us to clarify, so I've added a section to the rules that I hope covers it.

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