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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:43 pm 
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gravel wrote:
IF noob wrote:
Non consent stories (starts out as rape but in mid action is consented to) is what most adult STORY TELLERS go for.


IF noob wrote:
I've spent some time with the porn/erotica community and rape is not in the majority of the stories


???

IF noob wrote:
I say "adult" and your mind immediately goes to rape?


Actually, it was more the bit about making NPC's have sex without their consent.

1: Rape isn't in the majority of the erotica community.
In pornographic fiction, non con is in a separate category than rape, in reality it is rape (unless you mean stuff like casual non consented genital touching or something).

2: I said each NPC has her own personality which may be immune to hypnotic suggestion of things not normally done.
If it is attempted to bypass this, anything but sex may be done to her if it's in her nature.

I'm sure you've noticed I only said she or her.
That's because the person who programed this library liked girl/girl scenes, unless it's with the player.
There are men in the game too.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:59 pm 
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So there's sexual assault against women, but only if it's in their nature (or if they've taken a shower recently)? Well, then, I guess that's totally okay. Nothing *at all* problematic there.

Perhaps I wasn't clear that my concern was not with the level of explicitness (hardcore vs. softcore), but with including issues of consent without at least a warning, and at least avoiding repeating some of the worst stereotypes about rape (that victims secretly like it, that there's something about a victim that makes hir responsible). It trivializes rape, and you're doing so as a tacked-on feature: it wasn't necessary for the original plot or story, it's just a nice bonus.

That's the base issue for me whether or not the rape happens behind closed doors.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:38 pm 
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You know this is just a game don't you?
It was never meant to be taken seriously.

The author of the original game knew this even before he put in his sex commands.
If you have a problem with this, don't let the door hit you on the way out! :x

Women's Libbers. :roll:


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:59 pm 
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IF noob wrote:
If you have a problem with this, don't let the door hit you on the way out! :x


Who was it that asked for feedback in the first place?

IF noob wrote:
You know this is just a game don't you?
It was never meant to be taken seriously.


Ah, yes, "you're interrogating from the wrong perspective."
Ooh, I've almost got bingo on my Internet Troll Tropes card.

Now maybe you'll call me a feminist as though it was a bad thing.

IF noob wrote:
Women's Libbers. :roll:


Eh, close enough.

Bingo!


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:02 pm 
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I notice IF noob is asking in this & other threads for people to work with him.
This is a public forum open to people of all ages.
I hope anyone considering working with this guy, carefully reads his posts before thinking VERY carefully about giving him their contact details.

The fact he is arguing against those who challenge his posts, shows it's not a case of mis-communication,
He actually thinks this stuff is cool !!!!!!!!!!!

WARNING: CONTAINS ADULT THEMES & LANGUAGE : show
IF noob wrote:
All children in game are young adults (18 - 20 something) to avoid sexual themes with teens, pre-teens, toddlers, infants, or newborns.
Do you want to work with, and give your details to, someone who thinks it is neccessary to tell you to avoid sexual themes with (among others) toddlers, infants & newborns !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF noob wrote:
Violent rape is only a fetish for the player who wants to get right in the action.
!!!!!!!!

IF noob wrote:
You know this is just a game don't you?
Yes & Nazism is just an ideology. Dickhead.

IF noob wrote:
Women's Libbers. :roll:
Anyone think this misogynistic twat has got a single worthwhile thing to say... Anyone?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:14 pm 
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FUCK YOU!! :evil:


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:16 pm 
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Bingo!


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:42 pm 
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I hate to do this but we're only on page two and we've already seen Nazis, accusations of trolling, unnecessary profanity and the omission of a serial comma.

Let's try to resume civil discussion in a new thread.


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