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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:00 pm 
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I've had endless trouble with extensions on my Mac...

how, precisely, do I uninstall an extension that I don't want any longer?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:22 pm 
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Generally you don't. Why do you want to uninstall it?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:22 pm 
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Cos I can't figure out how to shut it off.

Information for how to shut it off would also be good.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:25 pm 
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Extensions are only included if you explicitly include them, with a line like "Include Modified Timekeeping by Daniel Stelzer". If you don't have any of those lines in your source file, no extensions will be included (or "turned on" as you put it).

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:28 pm 
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But I haven't explicitly included this one, and it's still insisting on including itself in the release even though it shouldn't be. I wrote an alternative English Language file for kicks, and now I can't get the file to compile without it even after I've removed the extension from the Inform file altogether.

edit: fixed by deleting all my extensions.

Wacky, but effective.


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It is possible for extensions to call other extensions within their source text if one depends on the other. That *might* have been what was happening.

Most of the time, as Draconis said, Extensions are kept in your own personal library and only included when you explicitly do so in the text of your project. You shouldn't have any reason to uninstall an extension unless something seriously bugs out.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:22 pm 
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Something seriously bugged out.

Frankly, extensions never worked that well for me on Mac anyway, so I think I'll give them a miss.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:34 pm 
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In this case, I think the issue is probably specific to the English Language extension. Writing with Inform §27.27 says:

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See the extension "English Language by Graham Nelson" supplied with I7, which is included automatically by default.


which suggests that with this extension in particular, you may not be able to get it out of your project without seriously knowing what you're doing. (The way Inform places its files on the Mac always confuses me; it likes to put them in a place that's inaccessible to the Finder and search boxes.)

Anyway, it's probably not a good idea to directly mess with the English Language extension. If you want to experiment with it, you can use another extension that replaces sections of the original extension, like this:

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Section 3 - Further pronoun surprise (in place of Section 3 - Further pronouns in English Language by Graham Nelson)


For instance, if you install and include the attached extension ("English Language Surprise" by Matt Weiner), you will get a surprise whenever you have a message that uses the pronoun "It." The best way to do this seems to be to plunge the player into darkness. But the original English Language extension is untouched, so you don't have to worry about the modification spilling over into your projects if you don't want it to, I don't think.

(That extension is mostly a goof--Teaspoon, apologies for messing around while you're having an annoying issue. But it does demonstrate a way to modify English Language without modifying the original file, which I think is probably dangerous.)


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I'm pretty sure MacOS stuff goes in the Library folder, and several years ago they hid it by default so people wouldn't mess with it. I believe you have to set a preference to show it by default.

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I ran some script from the command line and I can navigate to it in the Finder now, but it's still invisible to searches including the ones that you do in file pop-up menus. (This isn't to say I ran the right script from the command line.)


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