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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:57 pm 
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There are several excellent lists of interactive fiction available, such as the Top 50. I was however unable to find one that made use of the large amount of ratings on IFDB. Being a sucker for rankings, I decided to create one using an IMDb style Bayes estimator. Here it is, based on what I scraped from IFDB a few hours ago:

  1. 4.61 Counterfeit Monkey (2012) by Emily Short (50 votes)
  2. 4.60 Anchorhead (1998) by Michael Gentry (229 votes)
  3. 4.43 Lost Pig (2007) by Admiral Jota (277 votes)
  4. 4.40 Worlds Apart (1999) by Suzanne Britton (61 votes)
  5. 4.38 Violet (2008) by Jeremy Freese (222 votes)
  6. 4.36 Trinity (1986) by Brian Moriarty (62 votes)
  7. 4.35 Planetfall (1983) by Steve Meretzky (81 votes)
  8. 4.33 Hadean Lands (2014) by Andrew Plotkin (18 votes)
  9. 4.32 Spider and Web (1998) by Andrew Plotkin (186 votes)
  10. 4.32 The Mulldoon Legacy (1999) by Jon Ingold (28 votes)
  11. 4.32 Blue Lacuna (2008) by Aaron A. Reed (72 votes)
  12. 4.30 Photopia (1998) by Adam Cadre (372 votes)
  13. 4.30 Savoir-Faire (2002) by Emily Short (78 votes)
  14. 4.27 City of Secrets (2003) by Emily Short (75 votes)
  15. 4.26 Bronze (2006) by Emily Short (152 votes)
  16. 4.23 Slouching Towards Bedlam (2003) by Star Foster, Daniel Ravipinto (135 votes)
  17. 4.23 Metamorphoses (2000) by Emily Short (78 votes)
  18. 4.19 Coloratura (2013) by Lynnea Glasser (43 votes)
  19. 4.19 Suveh Nux (2007) by David Fisher (136 votes)
  20. 4.18 Enchanter (1983) by Marc Blank, Dave Lebling (62 votes)
  21. 4.17 Flexible Survival (2010) by Nuku Valente (20 votes)
  22. 4.16 Endless, Nameless (2012) by Adam Cadre (22 votes)
  23. 4.15 Make It Good (2009) by Jon Ingold (51 votes)
  24. 4.14 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (1984) by Douglas Adams, Steve Meretzky (130 votes)
  25. 4.11 Eric the Unready (1993) by Bob Bates (25 votes)
  26. 4.10 Babel (1997) by Ian Finley (104 votes)
  27. 4.10 80 Days (2014) by inkle, Meg Jayanth (10 votes)
  28. 4.09 Mentula Macanus: Apocolocyntosis (2011) by One of the Bruces, Drunken Bastard (22 votes)
  29. 4.06 The Gostak (2001) by Carl Muckenhoupt (41 votes)
  30. 4.05 Varicella (1999) by Adam Cadre (85 votes)
  31. 4.05 A Mind Forever Voyaging (1985) by Steve Meretzky (69 votes)
  32. 4.04 Vespers (2005) by Jason Devlin (101 votes)
  33. 4.04 Spellbreaker (1985) by Dave Lebling (35 votes)
  34. 4.03 The Guild of Thieves (1987) by Rob Steggles (17 votes)
  35. 4.03 Adventurer's Consumer Guide (2007) by Øyvind Thorsby (20 votes)
  36. 4.03 Jigsaw (1995) by Graham Nelson (57 votes)
  37. 4.03 The Lurking Horror (1987) by Dave Lebling (63 votes)
  38. 4.01 Leather Goddesses of Phobos (1986) by Steve Meretzky (51 votes)
  39. 4.01 All Things Devours (2004) by Half Sick of Shadows (58 votes)
  40. 4.01 Curses! (1993) by Graham Nelson (82 votes)
  41. 4.00 Bee (2012) by Emily Short (44 votes)
  42. 4.00 Augmented Fourth (2000) by Brian Uri! (44 votes)
  43. 4.00 The King of Shreds and Patches (2009) by Jimmy Maher (42 votes)
  44. 4.00 Sorcerer (1984) by Steve Meretzky (38 votes)
  45. 4.00 Stationfall (1987) by Steve Meretzky (30 votes)
  46. 4.00 Treasures of a Slaver's Kingdom (2007) by S. John Ross (24 votes)
  47. 3.99 18 Cadence (2013) by Aaron A. Reed (13 votes)
  48. 3.98 Christminster (1995) by Gareth Rees (64 votes)
  49. 3.97 Nightfall (2008) by Eric Eve (37 votes)
  50. 3.97 Kerkerkruip (2011) by Victor Gijsbers (36 votes)
  51. 3.97 Blighted Isle (2007) by Eric Eve (33 votes)
  52. 3.97 Gateway (1992) by Mike Verdu, Michael Lindner, et al. (25 votes)
  53. 3.96 Zork Zero (1988) by Steve Meretzky (42 votes)
  54. 3.95 Fallacy of Dawn (2001) by Robb Sherwin (16 votes)
  55. 3.95 To Hell in a Hamper (2003) by J. J. Guest (68 votes)
  56. 3.94 Suspended (1983) by Michael Berlyn (29 votes)
  57. 3.94 Gun Mute (2008) by C. E. J. Pacian (92 votes)
  58. 3.94 The Axolotl Project (2013) by Samantha Vick (10 votes)
  59. 3.94 Cyberqueen (2012) by Porpentine (25 votes)
  60. 3.93 Dual Transform (2010) by Andrew Plotkin (69 votes)
  61. 3.93 Not Just An Ordinary Ballerina (1999) by Jim Aikin (23 votes)
  62. 3.93 Shade (2000) by Andrew Plotkin (267 votes)
  63. 3.93 Arthur (1989) by Bob Bates (22 votes)
  64. 3.92 9:05 (2000) by Adam Cadre (323 votes)
  65. 3.91 Alabaster (2009) by John Cater, Rob Dubbin, et al. (80 votes)
  66. 3.90 The Shadow in the Cathedral (2009) by Ian Finley and Jon Ingold (12 votes)
  67. 3.90 Wishbringer (1985) by Brian Moriarty (69 votes)
  68. 3.89 Cryptozookeeper (2011) by Robb Sherwin (11 votes)
  69. 3.89 Exhibition (1999) by Ian Finley (20 votes)
  70. 3.89 Pytho's Mask (2001) by Emily Short (56 votes)
  71. 3.89 Horse Master (2013) by Tom McHenry (37 votes)
  72. 3.89 You Will Select a Decision (2013) by Brendan Patrick Hennessy (28 votes)
  73. 3.89 Beyond Zork (1987) by Brian Moriarty (36 votes)
  74. 3.88 Six (2011) by Wade Clarke (27 votes)
  75. 3.88 Plundered Hearts (1987) by Amy Briggs (43 votes)
  76. 3.88 Hunger Daemon (2014) by Sean M. Shore (26 votes)
  77. 3.88 Rover's Day Out (2009) by Jack Welch, Ben Collins-Sussman (33 votes)
  78. 3.88 Ad Verbum (2000) by Nick Montfort (97 votes)
  79. 3.87 Delightful Wallpaper (2006) by Andrew Plotkin (56 votes)
  80. 3.87 Ollie Ollie Oxen Free (2013) by Carolyn VanEseltine (16 votes)
  81. 3.87 Hunter, in Darkness (1999) by Andrew Plotkin (94 votes)
  82. 3.87 First Draft of the Revolution (2012) by Emily Short, Liza Daly, Inkle (23 votes)
  83. 3.86 Robin & Orchid (2013) by Ryan Veeder, Emily Boegheim (29 votes)
  84. 3.86 Gateway 2: Homeworld (1993) by Mike Verdu, Glen Dahlgren (14 votes)
  85. 3.86 Tales of the Traveling Swordsman (2006) by Mike Snyder (35 votes)
  86. 3.86 Rematch (2000) by Andrew D. Pontious (49 votes)
  87. 3.86 Ultra Business Tycoon III (2013) by Porpentine (27 votes)
  88. 3.86 Spellcasting 101 - Sorcerers Get All The Girls (1990) by Steve Meretzky (20 votes)
  89. 3.86 Lists and Lists (1996) by Andrew Plotkin (13 votes)
  90. 3.85 Sunset Over Savannah (1997) by Ivan Cockrum (40 votes)
  91. 3.85 Child's Play (2006) by Stephen Granade (40 votes)
  92. 3.85 With Those We Love Alive (2014) by Porpentine, Brenda Neotenomie (26 votes)
  93. 3.85 So Far (1996) by Andrew Plotkin (59 votes)
  94. 3.85 Moments Out of Time (2001) by L. Ross Raszewski (12 votes)
  95. 3.84 Raising the Flag on Mount Yo Momma (2010) by Juhana Leinonen (11 votes)
  96. 3.84 First Things First (2001) by J. Robinson Wheeler (11 votes)
  97. 3.84 The Elysium Enigma (2006) by Eric Eve (60 votes)
  98. 3.84 LASH -- Local Asynchronous Satellite Hookup (2000) by Paul O'Brian (29 votes)
  99. 3.84 Dinner Bell (2012) by Jenni Polodna (29 votes)
  100. 3.84 For a Change (1999) by Dan Schmidt (72 votes)

Edit: An automatically updated version is now kept here.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:28 am 
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Huh.

This feels very different from the actual Top 50 that Victor usually organises...

...but I *like* this list!

Of course, there are some oddities - "List and Lists" over "For a Change" is... curious. But hey.

(funny how Edifice failed to make the cut)


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:54 am 
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Formula used for weighted ratings:
  • (r × v + c × m) ÷ (v + m)

Where:
  • r = average of ratings for the work
  • v = number of ratings for the work
  • c = the mean rating on all of IFDB (3.32)
  • m = minimum amount of ratings required (9)

Notes:
  • 3.32 is the mean of all individual ratings, but the mean of all work averages is 2.69.
  • 9 might not be an optimal required amount of ratings, but after some experimentation I believe it to be reasonable.
  • 3,790 of the totally listed 7,457 works have no ratings at all. Only 691 works have the required 9 ratings or more.

Distribution of all individual ratings:
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 12:08 pm 
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Only two I'm unfamiliar with are
#20 Flexible Survival (2010): "An erotic survival game set after a bioterrorism attack."
#95 Raising the Flag on Mount Yo Momma (2010): "Gus is a smug numbskull who doesn't deserve to have the insult battle championship. You are here to take the title from him with the best yo momma insults there are. You just have to find them first."


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Yeah, it's interesting that Flexible Survival scores so high, actually.

Hmmm, all the ratings were cast within the same five-day-or-so period. I guess the IFDB entry was announced at their place and they flocked over to rate it highly.

Ah well. I don't think anything can be done about it. It does leave us with Flexible Survival being, apparently, higher rated than A Mind Forever Voyaging and Babel and Endless, Nameless and well, that does irk me a bit. But this is only a bit of fun anyway, so.


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Flexible Survival is a pretty amazing achievement--lots of people try to implement a massive RPG in text but they're the only ones who've done it. And people who don't like it probably don't play enough to rate it.

It does seem like the people who rate it highly pretty much don't rate anything else, which is unfortunate, but it's not like there's an official award they're gaming or something.


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Heh, I didn't mean to downsay FS *quite* that much. :) It's an amazing achievement, just like you said. I am just a bit uncomfortable that a rating exists where it gets to be higher rated than a bunch of other games.

Including, actually, Kerkerkruip. FS is listed higher than Kerker.

(so sad Aisle didn't make it to this rating. Ah well).

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Before anyone says it, yes, I am perfectly aware that this is a purely mechanical rating extracted from a rating system in a database where there are umpteen variables. I know it's a curio-only list. Regardless, I'm still sad Aisle didn't make the cut. I'm just an emotional guy


EDIT - Hmmmm. All the information on IFDB on FS mentions RPG and erotica (closer to porn, but ah well), but it does not mention the significant fact that all of the sexual encounters are yiffy in nature. Wouldn't it be relevant? I can add it myself, but I figured I might as well ask.


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Peter Piers wrote:
EDIT - Hmmmm. All the information on IFDB on FS mentions RPG and erotica (closer to porn, but ah well), but it does not mention the significant fact that all of the sexual encounters are yiffy in nature. Wouldn't it be relevant? I can add it myself, but I figured I might as well ask.


I don't think it's necessary to detail the erotic aspects of an erotic game in the IFDB. (Other people may disagree, of course.)

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So, there's no need to differentiate a game about consensual sex from a game about rape? Or a game that is specifically about BSDM? Or beastiality? Or scat? All of these fall neatly under "erotica"?

I mean, these days there are trigger words for everything. If there's one place where a bit of fair warning seems reasonable is in an adult game with specialised tastes, whatever those tastes may be.


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Peter Piers wrote:
So, there's no need to differentiate a game about consensual sex from a game about rape? Or a game that is specifically about BSDM? Or beastiality? Or scat? All of these fall neatly under "erotica"?

I mean, these days there are trigger words for everything. If there's one place where a bit of fair warning seems reasonable is in an adult game with specialised tastes, whatever those tastes may be.


If you were certain of the answer, what did you ask the question for? Go ahead and make the change if you think it's important.

Also - based on your examples, your definition of "trigger warning" appears to be incorrect, as a trigger warning doesn't mean "Some people will find this content icky." A trigger warning means "This content will be actively harmful to a significant enough subsection of the population that we are notifying that subsection of the population about the content involved." (See http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Trigger_warning for a detailed explanation.)

<moderator> If you'd like to discuss trigger warnings further, please open a new thread in General and Off-Topic, as it would be off-topic for this thread. </moderator>

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