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 Post subject: Hadean Lands hints
PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:14 pm 
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I'm gonna be presumptuous and create this thread in advance of the game launch. I want a URL to send people to when they ask for hints.

Note that I will not be offering hints myself. This thread is for players to give hints to each other. (Beta-testers can chime in if they want, but don't pester them, okay?)

Use the spoiler tag, please; not everybody is stuck at the same point. I expect this thread will hang around for a long time, occasionally popping questions from new players. (That's what the Counterfeit Monkey hint thread looks like.)

Enjoy.


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 Post subject: Re: Hadean Lands hints
PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:54 pm 
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Near the start of the game, I learned how to perform the
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universal tarnish cleaning inscription
. Surprisingly, there were separate entries in my recall list for performing it with
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both the brass pin and the steel bolt
. They seem to do the exact same thing so I don't see what the use of having different entries in the list is. Is this a bug?


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 Post subject: Re: Hadean Lands hints
PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:49 pm 
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Here is an important note to my past self, and also to future players, regarding getting into the midgame.

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Yes, the other way of doing that thing does work, even if you wrote "WHY DOESN'T THIS WORK?" in big unhappy letters next to the ritual name on your notes. Just calm down and try it again when you get to the point where you've run out of other options and can't get all four things in the same room at one time any other way.


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 Post subject: Re: Hadean Lands hints
PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:23 pm 
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cata wrote:
Is this a bug?


No.

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The effect - removing tarnish - is the same, but the formulae apply the symbol to different items.
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Many of the formulae you will learn can be performed in different ways or on different items.
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Sometimes the alterations are subtle and sometimes they drastically change the effect.
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This is one of the core mechanics of the game.
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 Post subject: Re: Hadean Lands hints
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:46 am 
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I'm feeling mildly dumb right now. :( I've tried pretty much everything I can think of, but can't get the
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blackwood to light


As a consequence I can't get the
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elemental fire
. I've thought of using
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electrum regium as a substitute, but can't find the oil I need to start that process.


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 Post subject: Re: Hadean Lands hints
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:49 am 
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zkline wrote:
I'm feeling mildly dumb right now. :( I've tried pretty much everything I can think of, but can't get the
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blackwood to light


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Can you get other woods to light?


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What do you notice about how they burn?


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The woods you have burn at different heats, which means they can be used for different things.


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Try lighting some wood that burns *nearly* as hot as the blackwood, then use it to light the blackwood.


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 Post subject: Re: Hadean Lands hints
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:00 am 
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If anyone else is having your rituals fail for seemingly no reason:

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Drop all of your stuff somewhere else. You're probably carrying a bajillion items and one of them has some aroma or other that spoils the ritual. (Unfortunately, a lot of the rituals' failure text looks like success text :( )


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 Post subject: Re: Hadean Lands hints
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:45 am 
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ironwallaby wrote:
If anyone else is having your rituals fail for seemingly no reason:

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Drop all of your stuff somewhere else. You're probably carrying a bajillion items and one of them has some aroma or other that spoils the ritual. (Unfortunately, a lot of the rituals' failure text looks like success text :( )


As a related concept:
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When you start a ritual, the bound glows some color depending on the current atmosphere. Before continuing with your ritual (particularly one that destroys something you can't easily get more of), make sure this is the right color. In particular, I think the pyrics lab always has a fiery atmosphere, so a lot of rituals can't really be done there; head to opticks or mechanica instead.


This game is GREAT; I'm loving it. Definitely not going to get much else done tonight.


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 Post subject: Re: Hadean Lands hints
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:04 am 
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I must admit the concept of RESET is something I got to get used to. I find myself looking Forward to the weird experience of waking up for the very last time, typing a single command, and winning. And I desperately want RESET in real life. ;-)
By the way, is anyone here actually able to come even Close to remembering what flask or splinter or sheet was found where? Is it my Memory getting bad?


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 Post subject: Re: Hadean Lands hints
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:46 am 
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zahariel wrote:
If anyone else is having your rituals fail for seemingly no reason:

Actually
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Only the impets of essential oil can spoil rituals due to aroma, and they can be opened and closed. Just make sure that all the impets are closed (besides any required by the ritual) and you'll be fine.


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