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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:03 am 
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I read most of it. I find it surprising no one had trouble
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with obtaining two platinum rods, or two zafranum threads, or orichalcum
. That's what I'm trying to work on but not having much luck.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:48 am 
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Quester wrote:
I read most of it. I find it surprising no one had trouble
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with obtaining two platinum rods, or two zafranum threads, or orichalcum
. That's what I'm trying to work on but not having much luck.


Well, you can't. You need to look for other ways of accomplishing stuff.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:53 am 
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Have I screwed things up by
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waking Aistheta first?
It seems as if I'd done that with another one I would have been able to do much more.

Also what does the
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fulcrum
do? All I've noticed is that it glows near a
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dragon
but that isn't much help.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:05 am 
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Quester wrote:
Have I screwed things up by
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waking Aistheta first?
It seems as if I'd done that with another one I would have been able to do much more.


Nah, there's a win path from each of those four starting points.

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Also what does the
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fulcrum
do? All I've noticed is that it glows near a
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dragon
but that isn't much help.


That's an essential part of
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waking more dragons.
It sounds like you've not found the details of the ritual that uses it, so keep exploring. A tip is that the "Doors" command will remind you of unreached places.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:12 am 
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Oh wait, are you talking about
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dragon subsumption
? Apparently it's not a ritual, which is why I missed it. It was in "facts"


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:22 am 
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Quester wrote:
Oh wait, are you talking about
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dragon subsumption
? Apparently it's not a ritual, which is why I missed it. It was in "facts"


Yup, that's the procedure you need to do (several times).


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I also went past it for a while - I didn't think it was something I could do, because I didn't seem to have everything required.

Then the game started hinting that I try it anyway. So I did. The game's really good at nudging - the only two points I was ever really stuck in (and I mean utterly, game-stoppingly and unpleasantly stuck) were not figuring out the sparks (my stupidity and incorrect assumptions) and the Gaia thing (because of a lack of vocabulary).

This is a game that rewards experimentation, so go wild. Even if you don't think it'll work. Heck, especially if you don't think it'll work. That's a good rule of thumb for whenever you get stuck.


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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2016 5:13 pm 
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So I've finally got around to this and I'm absolutely stuck toward the beginning. Current rituals under the spoiler:

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resonant oculus creation (*)
fungicide synthesis
universal tarnish cleansing inscription (with the brass pin)
doubled rust cleansing inscription (with the steel bolt)
doubled tarnish cleansing inscription (with the brass pin)
basic rust cleansing inscription (with the steel bolt)
basic tarnish cleansing inscription (with the brass pin)


I'm not going to completely spoiler the things I think I'm stuck on, because when a post doesn't have anything outside the spoiler tags, it's impossible to tell whether it's applicable to anyone's situation without blindly opening the spoiler tags, which rather defeats their purpose. If you're worried about seeing any sort of spoiler at all, keep your eyes tightly shut as you read this.

So: I think I need to find a gestalt shelf to do the ritual I know but haven't done yet. And I thought I saw one somewhere, but I can't find it for the life of me--is it just in my memories? Do I need to make one?

Another possibility would be an

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Alchemy File Lock


but I gather from a couple posts I've opened that I can't get that yet.


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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2016 5:41 pm 
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matt w wrote:
So: I think I need to find a gestalt shelf to do the ritual I know but haven't done yet. And I thought I saw one somewhere, but I can't find it for the life of me--is it just in my memories? Do I need to make one?

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No, you'll find them attached to some of the ritual bounds. I'd suggest revisiting the rooms that are accessible to you, noting which have bounds, and examining them carefully. The bounds can differ from one another in interesting ways.

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Oh good heavens, I think I managed never to go north from the Lab Hall Southwest. I may not be cut out for this.


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