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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:08 am 
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Myrlin, have you visited the attic yet? You won't be able to proceed further with those until you do.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:35 am 
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...except the boiler room.

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Most of the places you can go in the boiler room are just there for atmosphere and not necessary for the solution of the puzzle. Also they kill you.


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To find the solution, look up a lot of things in the journal.


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Edwin (uh, this is Edwin, right? I have trouble keeping the Cragnes straight) capitalizes Important Phrases, which also tend to be things you can look up.


To find the goal here

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Look up Men of Power.


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Then look up Cache.


Well, that doesn't tell you exactly what to do.

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You're going to need to figure out where the cache is. The hex code for it isn't directly in the journal.


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Look up a lot of stuff about Edwin's brother's pursuits.


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Edwin chose a hex code that's a pun on stuff that his brother does.


General note about the formulation of the hex code you need here:

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It's all letters.


Another hint if you're having trouble figuring it out, but it doesn't give away the answer:

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Something that can help you figure it out is an online Esperanto translator.


...and in general, to figure out whether you can solve a problem now or later, use the coffee cup. It should be telling you that you can't solve the Pub or Greenhouse yet.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:30 pm 
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Ok ok I have been driven to creating an account to ask for help! I'm at the end of the game but stuck in a few places and I don't think the coffee cup tells me I can do anything anywhere at this point.

Coffee cup says I should come back later in the following places:

Greenhouse

Pub

Attic Nursery
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Vacuum is busted.


Garden Shack
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I have given the centipede the moldy sausage and it has expired. But now coffee cup says to come back later?


Forest Shack
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I can see Peter there. I have the grimoire, cyst, and black horn up in the observatory. I have two possible star sign combinations but neither seems to work and I have no reason to believe one is Peter's star sign. Have been using gold watch as his memento but maybe that's wrong.


Meatpacking Plant
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Presumably if I could sharpen my machete this would be no problem.


Sitting Room

Rec Room

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I have one million keys but I guess not the right key.


Possibly there are other places where I get the modes of transportation coffee message but that's all I can remember at the moment. So many rooms!


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:03 pm 
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Joey wrote:
Myrlin, have you visited the attic yet? You won't be able to proceed further with those until you do.





Attic (in the Manor)? No, how/where do you get to it? Thanks!


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:10 pm 
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matt/Joey,

Got the boiler room done (Thx!) But it seems I need to find the Attic... Haven't found a room that mentions that yet... But I haven't been beyond east door at top of stairs, door in south hallway, or bricked door yet, though...


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:58 pm 
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A couple of points--

You won't see a room that mentions the Attic per se. When you're able to go up from a room on the second floor of Cragne Manor, that'll get you into the Attic (there are several rooms up there).

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You have to solve a puzzle to be able to go up. The up exit won't immediately be visible.


Of the doors you mentioned:

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I think there's an event that triggers the ability to sort-of-go where the bricked-up door is, you can never really go through it.


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From what Ryan and Jenni said, the person who was going to do that room had to drop out. That is why, though Cragne Manor has a much higher proportion of buildings with bathrooms than most IF games, Cragne Manor itself has no bathroom.


Of the other doors:

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You will have to unlock them both to get to the attic.


If you don't have any keys that you haven't tried yet

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Check the rooms in the basement of Cragne Manor for things you still need to do.


In particular

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Have you done everything you can possibly do in the Wine Cellar?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:23 pm 
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qp wrote:
Ok ok I have been driven to creating an account to ask for help! I'm at the end of the game but stuck in a few places and I don't think the coffee cup tells me I can do anything anywhere at this point.

Coffee cup says I should come back later in the following places:

Greenhouse

Pub

Attic Nursery
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Vacuum is busted.


Garden Shack
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I have given the centipede the moldy sausage and it has expired. But now coffee cup says to come back later?


Forest Shack
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I can see Peter there. I have the grimoire, cyst, and black horn up in the observatory. I have two possible star sign combinations but neither seems to work and I have no reason to believe one is Peter's star sign. Have been using gold watch as his memento but maybe that's wrong.


Meatpacking Plant
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Presumably if I could sharpen my machete this would be no problem.


Sitting Room

Rec Room

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I have one million keys but I guess not the right key.


Possibly there are other places where I get the modes of transportation coffee message but that's all I can remember at the moment. So many rooms!


I think there's one thing you need to do that will eventually take care of almost all of this... and the coffee cup may be lying in one room, which has some slightly complex behavior.

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You killed the centipede but did you search the soil again?


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You should be able to get another key out of this room. (Another one besides the rusty iron key you used to open the hatch way back when, I mean.


Two, uh three, other points about what you said about the Forest Shack:

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The gold watch isn't the memento.


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You'll have to come back to the Forest Shack with another item eventually. Some of the failure messages you get from trying to interact with Peter will suggest some sorts of items you need.


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You should've got a clue sometime about what you need to do to bring up the star sign you need. (It's not the one that gets you killed by the tentacle monster.) You do get a somewhat different message when you successfully reach the correct sign but it doesn't exactly bonk you on the head and tell you you've got the right one.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:12 pm 
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Music Room

I have solved various puzzles including
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bedroom, playground, backstage, forestland
but not
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L'oreille, or the living room beyond answering the phone


I think I have gone through every combination of buttons without managing to access rooms off those rooms.

I'm thinking that I need to be able to
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turn off the sounds without returning to the music room


Is this
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controlling music outside of Music Room
necessary and if so. a hint please


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:02 pm 
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Music Room

To your last question: no.
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Controlling the music has essentially nothing to do with this puzzle (other than using it to navigate, which you've already figured out).

You say that you've "solved" those rooms, but
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Did you get the note in the playground?

If not:
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Examine the seesaw thoroughly.

One you have that (or perhaps you already do):
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You have to solve both parts of the note. One part of the note is in a room that you say you've already solved; another part is in a room that you say you haven't solved.

Big spoilers next.

You can solve the first part in:
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Club Backstage

You can solve the second part in:
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Living Room

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Thank you!


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