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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:43 pm 
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Hi! Does anybody know or have ancient versions of Inform? Just asking for historical purposes... I have found some 5 series releases, but nothing before them... specially the original release.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:19 pm 
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Good question.

http://ifarchive.org/indexes/if-archive ... form5.html is all that I know about. If anyone has anything earlier, please upload 'em.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:53 am 
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Definitely no slight intended here but given how people often lament how much of Infocom's stuff, like ZILCH, is apparently lost to history, never to be fully recovered, it would be somewhat ironic if those who followed in its stead fell prey to the exact same situation.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:13 pm 
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For many years nobody thought about it, and the IF Archive only tried to keep the latest version of any game or tool.

You can see that in 2006, there was an active effort to locate old versions of Inform (compiler and libraries) and upload them.

More recently we've started retaining old versions of games. So there's a directory http://ifarchive.org/indexes/if-archive ... eXold.html , for example.


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I put together what I could find of inform5 into something easily installable for Unix systems at https://gitlab.com/DavidGriffith/inform5unix

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:00 am 
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I have some indication that certain Archimedes magazine CD image stored on Archive.org has an Archimedes archive whose timestamps predates Inform 5.0 release (that is, perhaps the surviving source/archimedes binary of inform 4..) but I never managed to proper unarchive this locked treasure chest, lacking an Linux/unix tool for decompressing & converting said archive, and without the patience needed for bringing up a working archimedes emulator.

if of real interest, I can point to those .iso ; really hope to see someday an ifarchive/compilers/inform/old/inform4 :)

Best regards from Italy,
dott. Piergiorgio.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:39 am 
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I'd be interested in the .iso ...


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:56 am 
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Yes, URL please. :)


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:32 am 
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brief history of the former research:

from Wedding.txt

Quote:
Version 1.00 (approx 19/7/96) - using out-of-date compiler & library from a
1994 Acorn User disk. The first properly working version, and one of two
versions submitted for the AU interactive fiction competition. Everything
works okay on !Zip, but !Zip2000 crashes if you try to speak to anyone,
which makes it rather tricky to complete the game.


The 1994 AU CD isn't in Archive.org, but there's an april 95 CD:

https://archive.org/download/cdrom-riscos-au-cd1

whose indeed contain this file:

Code:
ACORNUSER/DISCS/ACORNUSER/UPDATES/INFORM      1995-02-26 21:05:40   1001264


from the timestamp, if isn't Inform 4, is an early Inform 5, surely predating all those in the IF-Archive, save MPW_Inform5.4.sit.bin

the file is in that archimedes ZIP compression format... good luck !

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:47 am 
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The archive doesn't look to be compressed, as plenty of plain text is visible in it. From looking at the plain text, it's Inform 5.2 release 1259, which we already have (http://ifarchive.org/indexes/if-archive/infocom/compilers/inform5/source/old/). No source code obviously in the archive. Ah well, keep searching!


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